Comments on: Censored in Iran, Deleted in USA http://www.nartv.org/2007/08/13/censored-in-iran-deleted-in-usa/ Internet Censorship Explorer Sat, 06 Mar 2010 15:14:58 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: yekseda http://www.nartv.org/2007/08/13/censored-in-iran-deleted-in-usa/comment-page-1/#comment-246021 yekseda Fri, 03 Oct 2008 20:15:39 +0000 http://www.nartv.org/?p=298#comment-246021 Why censor the internet in Iran? We are able to get around it. I have know about Hossein's flight and have tried to do my part. Why censor the internet in Iran? We are able to get around it. I have know about Hossein’s flight and have tried to do my part.

]]> By: Hossein Derakhshan’s blog is suspended at Global Voices Advocacy http://www.nartv.org/2007/08/13/censored-in-iran-deleted-in-usa/comment-page-1/#comment-188430 Hossein Derakhshan’s blog is suspended at Global Voices Advocacy Thu, 16 Aug 2007 13:46:07 +0000 http://www.nartv.org/?p=298#comment-188430 [...] service should raise red flags within the Anti-Censorship community.” In another post “Censored in Iran, Deleted in USA“, Villeneuve, who is also documenting Internet content filtering and surveillance practices [...] [...] service should raise red flags within the Anti-Censorship community.” In another post “Censored in Iran, Deleted in USA“, Villeneuve, who is also documenting Internet content filtering and surveillance practices [...]

]]> By: nart http://www.nartv.org/2007/08/13/censored-in-iran-deleted-in-usa/comment-page-1/#comment-188403 nart Thu, 16 Aug 2007 12:33:12 +0000 http://www.nartv.org/?p=298#comment-188403 Fund raising for anti-censorship projects is difficult, you should not underestimate this. Hossein replaced the front page of stop.censoring.us with a protest message as a result of the legal threats the page became no longer available. The content of the message is not relevant to this fact. I will blog my thoughts on the content at another time, now I will support Hossein's right to freedom of expression at this critical time. Fund raising for anti-censorship projects is difficult, you should not underestimate this.

Hossein replaced the front page of stop.censoring.us with a protest message as a result of the legal threats the page became no longer available. The content of the message is not relevant to this fact.

I will blog my thoughts on the content at another time, now I will support Hossein’s right to freedom of expression at this critical time.

]]> By: Eric winther http://www.nartv.org/2007/08/13/censored-in-iran-deleted-in-usa/comment-page-1/#comment-188289 Eric winther Thu, 16 Aug 2007 06:33:52 +0000 http://www.nartv.org/?p=298#comment-188289 <b>In regard to stop.censoring.us you said “Well, nobody took it seriously.</b>” When I said nobody took it seriously, I meant nobody did a penny for his fund-raising! <b>But I am not going to stop testing, exposing and challenging Internet censorship if that’s what you are implying.</b> no. I'm happy to see that you don't agree with Derakhshan. sencorship is not an internal issue and i'm happy that you here in ICE doing a good job. But back to my first point: stop.sencoring.us was shut down by Hoder himself before his other websites - and including this protest letter- was shut down by his hosting company. In regard to stop.censoring.us you said “Well, nobody took it seriously.”
When I said nobody took it seriously, I meant nobody did a penny for his fund-raising!
But I am not going to stop testing, exposing and challenging Internet censorship if that’s what you are implying. no. I’m happy to see that you don’t agree with Derakhshan. sencorship is not an internal issue and i’m happy that you here in ICE doing a good job.
But back to my first point: stop.sencoring.us was shut down by Hoder himself before his other websites – and including this protest letter- was shut down by his hosting company.

]]> By: nart http://www.nartv.org/2007/08/13/censored-in-iran-deleted-in-usa/comment-page-1/#comment-188176 nart Thu, 16 Aug 2007 00:51:50 +0000 http://www.nartv.org/?p=298#comment-188176 Whether or not I agree with Hossein's views in the protest post on stop.censoring.us it is his right to express himself. I believe that his protest closure is significant, as was a similar protest by Chinese bloggers. But I am not going to stop testing, exposing and challenging Internet censorship if that's what you are implying. Whether or not I agree with Hossein’s views in the protest post on stop.censoring.us it is his right to express himself. I believe that his protest closure is significant, as was a similar protest by Chinese bloggers. But I am not going to stop testing, exposing and challenging Internet censorship if that’s what you are implying.

]]> By: nart http://www.nartv.org/2007/08/13/censored-in-iran-deleted-in-usa/comment-page-1/#comment-188170 nart Thu, 16 Aug 2007 00:25:55 +0000 http://www.nartv.org/?p=298#comment-188170 In regard to stop.censoring.us you said "Well, nobody took it seriously." I said, I took it seriously and it was used as a source in at least two OpenNet reports: http://opennet.net/studies/iran/ http://opennet.net/bulletins/004/ You are wrong. In regard to stop.censoring.us you said “Well, nobody took it seriously.”

I said, I took it seriously and it was used as a source in at least two OpenNet reports:

http://opennet.net/studies/iran/
http://opennet.net/bulletins/004/

You are wrong.

]]> By: erinther http://www.nartv.org/2007/08/13/censored-in-iran-deleted-in-usa/comment-page-1/#comment-188097 erinther Wed, 15 Aug 2007 20:19:02 +0000 http://www.nartv.org/?p=298#comment-188097 Hoder says: "<b>I believe that Internet censorship is an internal problem</b><b>" and "</b><b>Taking such efforts beyond Iran and into the international scene will benefit the American politicians more than the Iranian internet users.</b>" Then what do you mean exactly by telling us that "<b>it was taken seriously by me and by the OpenNet Initiative and is sourced in some of our reports</b>"? Are you in ICE trying to benfit the American politicians?!, assuming that you agree with mr. Derakhshan. Hoder says: “I believe that Internet censorship is an internal problem” and “Taking such efforts beyond Iran and into the international scene will benefit the American politicians more than the Iranian internet users.”
Then what do you mean exactly by telling us that “it was taken seriously by me and by the OpenNet Initiative and is sourced in some of our reports“? Are you in ICE trying to benfit the American politicians?!, assuming that you agree with mr. Derakhshan.

]]> By: nart http://www.nartv.org/2007/08/13/censored-in-iran-deleted-in-usa/comment-page-1/#comment-187975 nart Wed, 15 Aug 2007 12:47:04 +0000 http://www.nartv.org/?p=298#comment-187975 stop.censoring.us was an important resource. Content from it considerably aided my ability to test Internet censorship in Iran despite the fact that it was not updated frequently. It was taken seriously by me and by the OpenNet Initiative and is sourced in some of our reports. I'm fairly certain that Hossein will continue to cover issues of free speech and internet censorship in Iran, albeit from a perspective you don't seem to be inclined to agree with. stop.censoring.us was an important resource. Content from it considerably aided my ability to test Internet censorship in Iran despite the fact that it was not updated frequently. It was taken seriously by me and by the OpenNet Initiative and is sourced in some of our reports.

I’m fairly certain that Hossein will continue to cover issues of free speech and internet censorship in Iran, albeit from a perspective you don’t seem to be inclined to agree with.

]]> By: erinther http://www.nartv.org/2007/08/13/censored-in-iran-deleted-in-usa/comment-page-1/#comment-187548 erinther Tue, 14 Aug 2007 21:09:29 +0000 http://www.nartv.org/?p=298#comment-187548 Of course I read it. It obviously says it was not updatd for moe than one year. But it was not because of any political protest. Because last year he was trying to raise fund to it.(<a href="http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:Ml08KSaim6cJ:hoder.com/weblog/archives/015302.shtml+hoder:+015302.shtml&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=4&client=firefox-a" rel="nofollow">link</a>) Well, nobody took it seriously. Later on it was shut down by Mr. Derakhshan. Now he's busy of raising fund for his other projects, namely his education. Of course someone <a href="http://kamangir.net/2007/08/13/godfather-seeks-support-from-the-islamic-republic/" rel="nofollow">who seeks financial support</a> from I.R can't cover the violation of free speech and censorship there in Iran. Of course I read it. It obviously says it was not updatd for moe than
one year. But it was not because of any political protest. Because last year he was trying to raise fund to it.(link)
Well, nobody took it seriously. Later on it was shut down by Mr. Derakhshan.
Now he’s busy of raising fund for his other projects, namely his education. Of course someone who seeks financial support from I.R can’t cover the violation of free speech and censorship there in Iran.

]]> By: nart http://www.nartv.org/2007/08/13/censored-in-iran-deleted-in-usa/comment-page-1/#comment-187478 nart Tue, 14 Aug 2007 19:11:27 +0000 http://www.nartv.org/?p=298#comment-187478 Did you not read the text of what you posted in your comment #1? Did you not read the text of what you posted in your comment #1?

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